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Why Saying That Religion-Doesn’t-Cause-Harm Isn’t Nuanced

Many people who want to defend religion against “strident” atheists like Jerry Coyne, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, and other New Atheists make the claim that these sort of thinkers have an overly simplistic view of religion. To the contrary, I think many such defenders-of-religion have overly simplistic views of religious violence.

People often conceptualize violence and conflict in ways that serve the overly simplistic narratives that they tell themselves about the world and their place in it. As a non-religious example, sexual violence is often treated as a monolithic category; we’re told that it is a reflection of the exertion of one group’s (the patriarchy’s) power over another and that it has nothing to do with sex. While the former statement — that it reflects an exertion of power — is true more often than not, it’s not true that rape never involves an element of sexuality. Many rapists (though certainly not all) perform their act of violence in an effort to forcefully take what they want or, in some cases, because the violence and the dehumanization of their victim sexually excites them. The latter is certainly true in the case of some serial killers. That the rest of us find these acts of violence deplorable and entirely divorced from our ordinary notions of sexuality does not change the fact that it is an expression of the perpetrator’s sexuality. Some number of people really are sexual predators, for whom violent predation is sexually stimulating. Similarly, that violence is very far away from the religious sensibilities of many people does not change the fact that, for some people, violence is tied to their religious expression in one way or another. That many of us find these actions perverse does not alone mean that these actions were not tied to religion.

Two days ago (on April 26), in Santiago, Chile, a Christian group burned an infant to death because they thought that it was the anti-Christ. Reading through news reports on the incident, one finds numerous statements designed to dehumanize the members of the group and to put their actions into a framework that makes them understandable. Instead of dealing with complexity and nuance, it is claimed that this group could not have been Christian or that they were simply insane. They’re labeled “crazy”, “nuts”, and “schizophrenic”. It is said that what this group believed was not actually a religion, that their members were merely being misled by their leader, and it is said that their beliefs could not possibly be genuine. All of this ignores the grim reality of the situation.

I’ve noticed something remarkably odd about the overly simplistic way that people think about religious violence. People often claim that religion does not lead to violence or does not inspire violence. Nonetheless, religion is not some monolithic, all-encompassing entity (nor is violence for that matter). Religions are extraordinarily varied and diverse. When someone claims that religion does not bring about violence, our next question should be, “Which religion and in what context?” Often, what non-religious people mean when they say that religion does not lead to violence is that that their friendly religious neighbor is perfectly harmless. When religious people make that claim, they mean that their own religious beliefs are harmless (or even lead them to do good things in their communities). But that doesn’t mean that a different religious view wouldn’t play a different role in conflict.

I’ve heard Christians claim that Christianity does not lead to violence and I’ve heard Muslims claim that Islam does not lead to violence; what they mean is that their preferred version of Islam or Christianity does not lend itself to inspiring violence. That does not mean that a different form of Islam or Christianity couldn’t bring about violence. There are profound and very real theological differences within each of these groups, and each of them comprise remarkably different communities. Sometimes what people mean when they say that Islam or Christianity do not lead to violence is that either the Bible or the Koran do not lend themselves to provoking violence. I don’t actually think that’s true, but, whether or not it’s true, it is definitely false that there only exists a single interpretation of these texts. As a theologian recently pointed out on Hemant Mehta’s blog, “to read the Bible is to interpret it”. (This is likely to be true of whenever any one reads any text.) Interpretation of scriptures or doctrines is certainly not monolithic, and while we can strain ourselves to see religious texts as inspiring the work of humanitarians and gloss over the parts that recommend genocide, rape, or slavery (or understand those sections as human corruptions of a divine message) that doesn’t mean that those who view those same scriptures or doctrines through a non-strained lens are somehow less religious. Those who interpret their scriptures as calling for violence and then act in accordance are at least as religious as those who interpret their scriptures as not calling for violence. Therefore, the disavowal of these people as religious, upon their committing violent actions, is illegitimate.

The fact that there are political and sociological aspects of religious conflict does not deflate the role that religion plays in those conflicts either. Most sociologists and anthropologists understand religion to be a human product, a socially constructed system for answering certain kinds of existential questions and for placing arbitrary human customs into a cosmic context. As such, to say that religion plays a key role in these conflicts is just to re-iterate that human social conventions, politics, institutions, claims to authority, and so on play a key role in these conflicts. There shouldn’t be anything sui generis which excuses religion from playing a motivational role in the actions of humans, whether those actions are good or bad.

One of the key factors which, I think, underlies the way in which people fail to understand the role of religion in conflicts is a certain misunderstanding about the relationship between belief and action. There seem to be many people who are under the false impression that other people can separate their beliefs from their actions, and somehow act in a way that does not reflect their deep seated beliefs about the nature of the universe and their relationship to it.

Nonetheless, this is demonstrably false. There is a tremendous amount of sociological and anthropological data indicating that people seek conformity between all of their beliefs. In fact, it’s a basic tenet of political science that people act in this way, and that those actions determine their political actions (including the way in which they vote). In political and moral philosophy, this principle is given the name “reflective equilibrium” and people are said to try to reach reflective equilibrium between their beliefs. If a conservative Christian really, truly believes that homosexuality presents our society with a destructive malignancy capable of overthrowing the stability of Western civilisation, then we cannot reasonably expect them to respect homosexuals.

For a specific example as to how religion drives action, see the paper “The Historical Roots of Our Ecologic Crisis” by Lynn White, which details the way in which our poor treatment of the environment (including global warming) were caused by Christianity.

Or consider the view which Peter Berger presents in his “The Sacred Canopy”; i.e. religion is a social institution invented in order to make our arbitrary social norms into statements with cosmic significance. In other words, all of the privileges that come with the pre-existing social order are turned into statements which come from God and therefore cannot be changed. This also explains why people organize their lives around religion — it provides a narrative by which their lives are given meaning and situated in the world. But notice that the way in which their lives are situated is at the expense of either others or themselves. We can very easily see this with the treatment of women and gay people by most religious communities. Not only are harmful cultural norms being enforced but they are being legitimated by the idea that they reflect the cosmic order.

To make matters worse, most religions in the Western context come with the idea of “faith” — that certain beliefs should be accepted as true even if there is no evidence for them and even if there is evidence to the contrary. Faith is harmful because it puts a protective shield around potentially harmful beliefs. It might be that some religious beliefs are not harmful, but unless we critically examine them, we are unable to determine which ones actually are harmful. The social and political situation changes and, as it does, which beliefs are harmful (or have the propensity to cause harm) will inevitably change. Without continually re-examining which beliefs should be discarded and which should not, we run an even greater risk of having beliefs which either harm others or ourselves.

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“Atheism is a religion!”

My friend Dave Muscato, PR director for American Atheists, posted the following to his Facebook wall:

What is it with Christians insisting that atheists are religious? I’ve heard this at least three times in the past couple of weeks, if not more.

Two problems with this: First, atheism is not a religion, and neither is secular humanism, by any standard definition. Religion requires some sort of belief in SOMETHING supernatural, which secular humanism categorically rejects, and which atheism doesn’t address, except for the narrow disbelief in gods specifically.

Second, the way Christians say it, it’s like saying we’re religious is an *accusation.* It’s like they’re saying, “You’re religious, too!!” Well, even if it were true that we are (it’s not)… what are you saying? That being religious is bad and we should be ashamed to be religious? Are you sure you want to pursue that argument? LOL.

Somebody explain this to me.

Here was my response:

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“Morality can only come from God!”

Theists often claim that morality can only come from God. It’s a claim that I’m pretty tired of hearing and is also pretty irrelevant for any sort of debate on the existence of God (despite whatever certain people might try to tell you).

In their most sophisticated version, what theists mean is that morality can only be metaphysically grounded in God and not that only religious people can be moral. Nonetheless, most philosophical views about the metaphysical grounding of ethics are secular. For some examples, give these a quick google search:

1. Ethical non-naturalism (for example, David Enoch’s view in “Taking Morality Seriously”)
2. Contractarianism (for example, John Rawls’ view)
3. Utilitarianism (John Stuart Mill)
4. Neo-Kantian Deontology
5. Naturalistic moral realism (for instance, Richard Boyd’s view in “How to Be a Moral Realist”)
6. Humean Conventionalism
7. Non-theistic Virtue Ethics (God isn’t necessary, for example, in Aristotle’s “Nichomachean Ethics”)

And there are several others as well.

Secular people don’t need to choose any of (1)-(7), and it’s worth noting that these options are available to Christians as well (some Catholics are virtue ethicists, for example). They don’t include God in their descriptions of morality, but one could incorporate them into a theistic world view nonetheless. However, the fact that these and other views *exist* means that it isn’t problematic for a secular person to think that morality exists and that it’s non-relative. All they have to say is, “Look, I don’t know which moral theory is correct. But here’s a big list, and I’m pretty sure that something like one of these is actually the case, even if none of these is precisely the true story. Besides, we have good reasons to think that moral relativism and moral nihilism cannot be the case.”

The truth of the matter is, there are a lot of mysteries in our world. Both theists and atheists actually agree on this point; theists can point to the mysterious ways of God, for example, while atheists can point out that there are scientific and philosophical mysteries that we have yet to solve. Usually, theologians think that a god-of-the-gaps is not a very good god; the gaps in our knowledge are always shrinking, so a god put into those gaps is made ever smaller. So the fact that we haven’t yet figured out everything that there is to know about morality shouldn’t be a reason to think that God is responsible for it; that would just be another god-of-the-gaps. Of course, theists can posit God as a potential explanation of morality. But it’s just disingenuous to claim that that’s the only possible explanation.

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Guest Post from Timothy Short: “A Shorter Fence Around Comfort Zones Rewards the Brave”

Note: The opinions expressed herein are those of Timothy Short and do not necessarily reflect those of Libere or skepticfreethought.com.

There was this cute girl at Liberty University in 2004 who introduced herself to me as an orphan. She even had a cool orphany name. Patches.

Patches was a sweetheart to everyone at school and for whatever life threw her way, she seemed stronger for it. She struck me as an old soul, someone with a good sense of perspective and maturity. Maybe she had a tragedy or a crisis in her background that afforded her a little bit of a cool head.

She flattered me of course by purchasing my book, Preacher Boy late last year. She had some questions for me which I promised to answer, of course. However her list of questions did not hit my radar until I posted something in the vein of “I believe in core values like humility, grace, mercy and love, empathy etc.” on Facebook.

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Have a Look Inside Liberty University’s Creationism Class

A group of photos of the Creationism textbook used at Liberty University has recently been brought to my attention. I thought that my readers would find it interesting, especially since Darwinian evolution is implicated in abortion and eugenics! Keep in mind that this is a college textbook at an accredited (!) university. You might recognize some of it, because, as I understand it, most of the curriculum is taken from Answers in Genesis.

Take a look:

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Video: “Does God Exist?” Debate at Liberty University

Last Thursday, I debated Max Andrews at Liberty University on the question of whether or not God exists. I’ll probably have more commentary on the debate in coming weeks.

Check out the video below:

For a copy of my slides, click here.

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Naturalism and Faith

In a recent discussion in the Metaontology seminar I am taking, (for reasons I don’t remember) I described one large problem in contextualizing religious tolerance; there is a tension between anyone who thinks that their religious view is the correct one (which is presumably just about any religious person) and the idea that religious people of different beliefs should come together in peace. One solution which drives at least some of the associated rhetoric that one sometimes hears is that all religions have the concept of faith in common (which is at least true enough for all Western religions). Religious people from a variety of different backgrounds can then come together under the mutual banner of faith. I then said that there is a problem for this view of religious toleration because there are people who lack faith, and how are we to understand them?

Later during the seminar, another student — we’ll call him D since I don’t know if he’d want his name on here — commented that he thought a naturalistic viewpoint was another kind of faith that one could have, so “couldn’t we all just get along?”

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Responding to Shaun Smith’s Review of the Liberty U Debate

Last Thursday, Max Andrews and I debated the question of whether or not God exists on the Liberty University campus. There was understandably a lot of excitement among students over the event because it is rare to have an atheist as an invited speaker at such a deeply conservative and Christian school as Liberty. To give you some idea of what the campus is like, the lecture hall in which the debate was held was in the same building as Creation Hall, which displays information and artifacts advocating Young Earth Creationism and a literal reading of the book of Genesis. There is also an evangelism class that Liberty requires all of their undergraduates to take. Most of their faculty members have degrees in Divinity or in Theology. There was one student who, prior to the debate, approached me and asked if I were an actual atheist. I don’t think he had knowingly met one before.

At the debate, Max presented four textbook arguments for the existence of God – the cosmological argument, the fine-tuning argument, the moral argument, and Plantinga’s modal ontological argument – while I presented a number of either original or unorthodox arguments against the existence of God – a version of the argument from incoherency from Stephen Law’s Believing Bullshit, a version of the assumption of naturalism I’ve seen used by John Shook, something I call the argument from uneven resources (which is related to the problem of evil and is original to myself), and an argument based around provisional methodological naturalism (inspired by a paper by Maarten Boudry). I’ll likely be presenting these arguments individually in future blog posts.

A colleague of Max’s, named Shaun Smith, has posted a review of the debate to Max’s blog that is largely critical of the arguments that I presented at the debate. I thought that I’d take some time here to respond to his comments.

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God existed, you guys!

Okay, so, it finally hit me. Why are there trees outside? It couldn’t have been more obvious, but I don’t know why it didn’t occur to me before. There are obviously trees because there’s a god who created them. Or was — but I’ll get to that in a moment.

I’m not sure yet if the trees were created by Allah, Yahweh, or perhaps some sort of celestial Johnny Appleseed (though I’m leaning towards the latter option) but it has become clear to me that God must have made those trees. How crystal clear it’s suddenly become!

But it’s also clear to me that this being doesn’t do much any more. So, I think the best explanation of the lack of miracles, of his celestial quietude, of all of the horrifying suffering that happens in the world, and, especially, all of the logging that has deforested much of the planet is that God once existed, but does so no longer. As Nietzsche said, God is dead. My hypothesis is that the Great Tree Maker crashed into the Earth 65 million years ago near the Yucatan Peninsula, thereby killing the dinosaurs and producing the K-T boundary.

I now feel the lack-of-presence of the Lord when I look out my window and inspect these green, leafy things — but of course that’s best explained by God having died! How silly it was to think that trees could have come about through the gradual process of evolution over the past 3 billion years of life’s existence. No, it’s clearly the case that trees are evidence of divine Providence. Or the once existent divine Providence which has since perished.

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Stephen Law in Conversation with Richard Dawkins

A couple weeks ago, Stephen Law — one of my favorite non-theistic philosophers of religion — posted a conversation between Richard Dawkins and himself on his blog. I watched the video recently and found it to be positively fascinating. Take a look yourself: